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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96323

Jason Dudley wrote:
He has asked the trust for money, which they refused.

Jason - I think that you shoud think very long and very hard and check your facts before you make accusations such as these.

The Trust has made it quite clear to all members and attendees at open meetings about the financial support we have given to the club over the last few years. If you wish to query this, then I am sure that we can provide you with specific details of these from our accounts.

Unlike those of the foootball club, we submit these each year and these are open to inspection by the FSA. If only JR was so transparent in his dealings we might not be in this mess.

We have also paid for many things that we needn't have publicised - like the team coach to certain away games, like the tickets to the recent Evo-stick awards night for Ben and Wayno that the club weren't prepared to fund.

Oh, and lest we forget, the mower. Purchased for £6k on the understanding that Jim would refund us each month with a monthly instalment.

Did we receive any payments - No.

Sounds familiar - sure does!

And you wonder "why I have a problem with you"?

I think that the problem is far closer to home.
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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96324

Would everyone agree that if we don't learn from history we continue to make the same mistakes?

Given the history I wonder how many people who still believe Rushe can take the club forward positively will actually back him WITH THEIR OWN MONEY?

It is quite easy to back him when someone else is paying. Putting your own money in requires TRUST.

I suspect we won't be long in finding out.
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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96325

Ben wrote:
because I do that all the time and boy have I taken some abuse from some people.

Join the club Ben. Two years of s**t during the Connett years and now much the same!
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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96334

Jason Dudley wrote:
Well I have only been watching the vics for 19 years, but still think my opinion should count for something.

It hurts me too, but I think the club was in the shizzle a long time before Jim arrived - Jim has also had to put up with a lot really in my eyes (debate at will)

I just want the current club to support for my boys and for their future, Noone else has come in with the money, have they? Are the trust going to run a club with their own money (not a dig just a query).

I just want NORTHWICH VICTORIA not FC victoria or northwich or what not. - is that such a crime? -

"No one else has come in with the money" That is the reason we're in this mess, Connett never had the money, Rushe never had the money. Connett built the stadium but didnt have the money and Rushe lost the stadium because he didnt have the money.

So some fans want the club run by people that can talk the talk but not walk the walk, it seems to me that some fans want everything handed to them on a plate without having to work for it, take the easy option.

Why, why, why is it so easy for some fans to follow and believe in a proven compulsive liar, deceiver and debtor rather than looking at the proof, analysing the information and coming to a logical desicion, why? "Because Jim has always treated me well, he's nice to me".

For this club to move forward would take a miracle and that miracle is Rushe relinquishing part ownership of the club but that's never going to happen, eventhough Rushe and the club are at it lowest and weakest position in its 138 year history.
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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96354

no idea why you started this topc jason, what exactly were you apologising for again? the reason i apologised was coz i fueled a huge argument from a view i didnt really believe. surely you arent attention seeking?...

i think JR has done good for this club, assembling this brilliant team we have currently, and kept us going for a few years despite personal problems. but now is time for the fans to have power, its us who suffer when things go t*ts up! its our money that goes up in smoke.
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Re: Sorry from a genuine VICS fan 1 year 4 weeks ago #96360

Apologies folks, I was a bit too quick to "thank you" Jason for what I thought was a genuine gesture of apology. Having read further I see nothing has really changed. *Moderators/Edge can you do the business and remove it for me, ta ;)

Without the Supporters Trust making up the difference from the money raised by Supporters (across all divides I'll grant you) we wouldn't have been able to pay AFCT and York what we owed. We wouldn't have had the recent FA Cup (and probably Trophy) memories to enjoy, because the FA would've barred us, and quite rightly so.
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