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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #93983

vics4600 wrote:
Yawn :pinch:

You keep saying this is a small section of the fan base, but there is no way around it - the respose has been quite unanimous

Are you ever going to answer our questions?

Added something constructive for you, Mr H :lol:
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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #93987

Time to put up or shut up!

What is your role in all this?

What is in it for you?

What is your background?

What professional qualifications do you hold? Business, engineering, customer relations etc etc

What other projects have you been involved in, that follow the same scale and timeline?

When will the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club be formed?

Will the NVJFC chairman be chairing the new Supporters Club?
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down
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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #94001

Northwich Victoria News wrote:
Edge wrote:
how can the other 213 comment if this plan isn't available anywhere else but here?

Have you seen the Who are you thread? Care to give us more info on your background, experience, mothers maiden name etc.?




I think you missed the point of the post. the other 213+ people will find out over the next 2-3 weeks as we role out the bulk of the information. What has been done over the last 3 days is to let everyone in the town know there is another voice for the supporters of Northwich Victoria to follow.

It was to counter your view in the Guardian last week that this is the voice of the supporters, it's not it is one of them.

I have just put figures on this thread that show how many people have posted on here and you point out a thread that's nothing to do with this thread or me.

I didn't come on here for a job interview or your Trusts permission to do anything I came on here to see what the opposition is to a proper fair and open minded supporters club backing the present club and in this thread I got my answer 26 out of 124.

I will do everything I can with all my experience to do what is in the skeleton document on this thread. All the main information is to come on other web sites and of course this one that's why it is taking so long to be seen on other sites.

I think you and your colleagues instead of putting childish threads on this forum should start looking at what direction you are going in because from what I have been told you are going off on a tangent to Trust you were when the original Trust was formed.



NVST have always followed and adhered to the nationally recognised definition of a supporters trust as defined by Supporters Direct, 'a democratic not-for-profit organisation, made up of supporters, committed to strengthening the voice of supporters in the decision making process at a club, and strengthening the links between the club and the community it serves.'

That is still the case. At no point does it say anything about supporting the club financially, nor does it say that we should unconditionally follow the owner, even when he has extremely questionable business practices and can be held largely responsible for the poor management of the club leading to a situation that seems to have very few outcomes other than the loss of nearly 140 years of proud footballing history in our town. By preparing a basic business plan for a Phoenix Club, we are preparing to preserve that history. We have at no point said that it will be implemented immediately, infact it was made very clear at the recent supporters meeting, and accepted and understood by all there, that it would not be ennactioned until NVFC no longer existed.

Not all fans will sympathise with the ST, which was abundantly clear to all of us, well well before either yourself or Jim appeared on the scene. There have been 'rifts' between fans for years.

However, as someone who knows and has regular contact with a huge quantity of people with different viewpoints throughout our fanbase, may I just relay to you the general opinion of NVFC fans.

They think your ideas are utter tripe.

I will leave it at that.
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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #94003

Steve,

I agree with JKMarshal. It's not just the Trust and people on this board that are against your plan, everyone I've spoke to has also spoken out against it.

You seem to think it's a simple matter of club vs Trust, when a lot of fans are in the middle but have had enough of the way the club is being ran and people coming along with their grand big money schemes.

The views expressed on here and against the way the club is ran are most certainly not that of the minority. I think you are underestimating fan opinion and that's not going to help your plan.
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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #94004

Northwich Victoria News wrote:
Edge wrote:
how can the other 213 comment if this plan isn't available anywhere else but here?

Have you seen the Who are you thread? Care to give us more info on your background, experience, mothers maiden name etc.?




I think you missed the point of the post. the other 213+ people will find out over the next 2-3 weeks as we role out the bulk of the information. What has been done over the last 3 days is to let everyone in the town know there is another voice for the supporters of Northwich Victoria to follow.

It was to counter your view in the Guardian last week that this is the voice of the supporters, it's not it is one of them.

I have just put figures on this thread that show how many people have posted on here and you point out a thread that's nothing to do with this thread or me.

I didn't come on here for a job interview or your Trusts permission to do anything I came on here to see what the opposition is to a proper fair and open minded supporters club backing the present club and in this thread I got my answer 26 out of 124.

I will do everything I can with all my experience to do what is in the skeleton document on this thread. All the main information is to come on other web sites and of course this one that's why it is taking so long to be seen on other sites.

I think you and your colleagues instead of putting childish threads on this forum should start looking at what direction you are going in because from what I have been told you are going off on a tangent to Trust you were when the original Trust was formed.

Your figures are based on all those 244 people having computers and reading this forum. This is not the case and to say your argument is simplistic would be giving you far too much credit.
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Re: NVFC and the Northwich Victoria Supporters Club 1 year 1 month ago #94008

Northwich Victoria News wrote:
Edge wrote:
how can the other 213 comment if this plan isn't available anywhere else but here?

Have you seen the Who are you thread? Care to give us more info on your background, experience, mothers maiden name etc.?




I think you missed the point of the post. the other 213+ people will find out over the next 2-3 weeks as we role out the bulk of the information. What has been done over the last 3 days is to let everyone in the town know there is another voice for the supporters of Northwich Victoria to follow.

It was to counter your view in the Guardian last week that this is the voice of the supporters, it's not it is one of them.

I have just put figures on this thread that show how many people have posted on here and you point out a thread that's nothing to do with this thread or me.

I didn't come on here for a job interview or your Trusts permission to do anything I came on here to see what the opposition is to a proper fair and open minded supporters club backing the present club and in this thread I got my answer 26 out of 124.

I will do everything I can with all my experience to do what is in the skeleton document on this thread. All the main information is to come on other web sites and of course this one that's why it is taking so long to be seen on other sites.

I think you and your colleagues instead of putting childish threads on this forum should start looking at what direction you are going in because from what I have been told you are going off on a tangent to Trust you were when the original Trust was formed.

Am I missing something? Unless JR pays the CVA none of your plans (realistic or not) will ever happen. You have never once referenced the CVA and what intends to be done about it. You can't just ignore it.
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