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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100233

Indeed, there are always two sides to an argument, but when one side is so blatantly flawed( and this is backed up by documented evidence of failure), it becomes rather difficult to understand the other's point of view.
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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100234

Chubby wrote:
Indeed, there are always two sides to an argument, but when one side is so blatantly flawed( and this is backed up by documented evidence of failure), it becomes rather difficult to understand the other's point of view.

Totally agree with that Chubby, I just wish people would think before posting damaging posts - they stay on here and people outside of the fans do look at them.

Northwich's name and reputation is at rock bottom in the local community - whatever happens in the coming months, that reputation will not get better overnight - it will take time. Anyone who posts on here can help in a small way, by thinking before they post.
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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100237

Chubby wrote:
This is a direct quote from the supporters club forum.

"Lets stop pussyfooting around. The club needs strong leadership and it is not going to come from a few deluded so called supporters with a fancy name.
Fans have had a team and ground PROVIDED FOR THEM for 130+ years and at the<strong> first hint</strong> of difficulty it is run and cry to mother time. Give power to the 'fans'? I've never heard anything so ridiculous. This is like asking Mr Cameron to hand over power to communists! We don't want any of this 'power to the people' stuff in Northwich.
<strong>Run right over them Mr McNally and run the club your way.</strong> Then there will be a future.
Posted: 19-04-2012 @ 05:38pm by <strong>Walton13</strong>"
:lol:

I can't believe this poster is calling us communists. Communism is state control, that means a certain group of people will be in control of everything, which isn't democracy. This is clearly not the case with the Supporter's Trust. The board act on what their members say, which clearly is democracy. If anything we are socialists. "Social ownership" may refer to any one of, or a combination of, the following: cooperative enterprises, common ownership, direct public ownership or autonomous state enterprises. This is basically giving power to the local community, i.e. in the case of the Trust, the fans. The UK used this function like this all the time until crony capitalism came in, introduced a new political class, moved local businesses into the third world countries and the UK became a more service sector dominated country, aimed towards selling itself as part of the market economy and attracting private enterprise. That's globalisation for you and look at the mess we have been left in terms of debt and the middle class are now going on strike. It's only the rich that are happy because the poor have to be poor for this to work.

Jim Rushe's regime is a typical example of Fascism. "Fascists advocate a state-directed, regulated market economy that is dedicated to the nation; the use and primacy of regulated private property and private enterprise contingent upon service to the nation, the use of state enterprise where private enterprise is failing or is inefficient, and autarky. It supports criminalization of strikes by employees and lockouts by employers because it deems these acts as prejudicial to the national community."The above seems like Rushe's secretive regime where fans are kept quiet and told to shut it or made to feel intimidated if they question the way the club is ran. We have no knowledge of where any money is going and Rushe/McNally fail to see the benefits of an open, democratic society yet you call us communist?

Hilarious.
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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100238

People seem to have forgotten that there are 195,000 reasons to continue to back the owner for some groups of Vics fans. Page 11 - pdfcast.org/pdf/asdf-43
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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100239

Chubby wrote:
This is a direct quote from the supporters club forum.

"Lets stop pussyfooting around. The club needs strong leadership and it is not going to come from a few deluded so called supporters with a fancy name.
Fans have had a team and ground PROVIDED FOR THEM for 130+ years and at the<strong> first hint</strong> of difficulty it is run and cry to mother time. Give power to the 'fans'? I've never heard anything so ridiculous. This is like asking Mr Cameron to hand over power to communists! We don't want any of this 'power to the people' stuff in Northwich.
<strong>Run right over them Mr McNally and run the club your way.</strong> Then there will be a future.
Posted: 19-04-2012 @ 05:38pm by <strong>Walton13</strong>"

This for me is one of the main reasons we have a split in the fanbase when so-called fans like this are allowed to post right wing rhetoric basically pleading for a dictator to come and save us rather than a democratically elected body of well known and successful businessmen, teachers and academics.

One question - is the 13 his age, shoe size or IQ?

Probably posted by the same person who put the nazi videos on here and there including the section for the kids
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Re: fight as one!!! 11 months 2 weeks ago #100240

jamie wrote:
Probably posted by the same person who put the nazi videos on here and there including the section for the kids

You make it sound so dramatic. Posting a satirically subtitled war film on a forum is hardly crime of the century is it?
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